Would You Have Liked It If Gohan Stayed the Main Hero?

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Would You Have Liked It If Gohan Stayed the Main Hero?
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bardock1990	Oct 29 2013, 04:45 PM Post #16
Posts: 1,078 Group: Member Member #8,530 Joined: November 6, 2012	NavonWise Oct 29 2013, 04:30 PM bardock1990 Oct 29 2013, 04:22 PM There is no indication in the Buu saga that Gohan didn't want to fight. He wasn't like he was in the Cell games. He was simply outsmarted by Buu which felt like a rushed, last minute decision to make the Golden Boy Goku the main hero yet again. He was built perfectly to fight Buu the whole saga and was very willing to do it. Again, he was outsmarted which it didn't need to be like that at all. The fact that he doesn't do anything for 7 years is a clear indication that he wasn't interested in fighting. And even if you don't want to use that fact, there really didn't have to be an indication in the Buu saga because it was already established before that his interest in fighting are very minimal. That being said, if his attitude towards fighting changed in the Buu saga, that would've sucked because we would need an explanation of why he suddenly changed. It didn't need to be a paragraph of an explanation, it could've been something brief, easy and simple. The only thing that shows is that Gohan didn't train during times of peace. When it came to every battle however he was very willing to fight. I agree that it does matter a little that he didn't train at all all those years, but it still doesn't matter because when it came down to it, he was ready to fight AND was the strongest of all. So I see no reason at all to think Gohan couldn't have been the hero. Him being outsmarted by a savage villain was just a ploy for Goku to be the main hero again. He was built up for a long time, became the strongest and was ready to fight. They made Gohan the hero and savior against Cell when he was much more inexperienced and very unwilling to fight yet he did get the W at the end there.



NavonWise	Oct 29 2013, 05:14 PM Post #17
Realist Rapper Alive Posts: 1,889 Group: Member Member #6,948 Joined: November 5, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Again, helping out is not the same as wanting to be the main hero, and loving the fight.
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bardock1990	Oct 29 2013, 05:32 PM Post #18
Posts: 1,078 Group: Member Member #8,530 Joined: November 6, 2012	NavonWise Oct 29 2013, 05:14 PM Again, helping out is not the same as wanting to be the main hero, and loving the fight. False. He did want it during training and when Kibito send him off to earth. And again, he was much, much more unqualified against Cell yet they made him the hero then.



Mightiest Gohan	Oct 29 2013, 06:33 PM Post #19
Posts: 1,040 Group: Member Member #10,132 Joined: September 6, 2013	Vegeta SSj4 Oct 29 2013, 02:11 PM Mightiest Gohan Oct 29 2013, 10:53 AM Don't think Gohan should be the main hero but I would've like to see Gohan vs Majin Piccolo. Lol where does Majij Piccolo vs Gohan counts? Instead of Majin Vegeta vs Goku, Majin Piccolo vs Gohan would've been better for me like student vs teacher.
	Super Buu: So, hotshot! You want to fight Majin Buu? Gohan: Fight you? No. I wanna kill you!


+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 29 2013, 07:15 PM Post #20
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Mightiest Gohan Oct 29 2013, 06:33 PM Vegeta SSj4 Oct 29 2013, 02:11 PM Mightiest Gohan Oct 29 2013, 10:53 AM Don't think Gohan should be the main hero but I would've like to see Gohan vs Majin Piccolo. Lol where does Majij Piccolo vs Gohan counts? Instead of Majin Vegeta vs Goku, Majin Piccolo vs Gohan would've been better for me like student vs teacher. Ah I see now well it would be great but I still prefer the Goku vs Vegeta one
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NavonWise	Oct 29 2013, 08:41 PM Post #21
Realist Rapper Alive Posts: 1,889 Group: Member Member #6,948 Joined: November 5, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	bardock1990 Oct 29 2013, 05:32 PM NavonWise Oct 29 2013, 05:14 PM Again, helping out is not the same as wanting to be the main hero, and loving the fight. False. He did want it during training and when Kibito send him off to earth. And again, he was much, much more unqualified against Cell yet they made him the hero then. So what you're telling me is, wanting to help defeat the bad guys is equivalent to, loving to fight and be a big hero? Bro, it's like I said, a sudden change in Gohan's character would have to result in Toriyama explaining or showing us why this change occurred. I have no problem with it, I wanted Gohan to take the lead, but if the kid doesn't want it and he's not even suited for it, what can I do? Gohan during the Cell saga still needed guidance, he would've never won without Goku's help, that should've been a red light; he wasn't ready yet. Years later, the kid doesn't train, got rusty and weaker, how is this not a clear indication that Gohan is not interested in fighting? Helping those in need of help is not the same as someone who wants to go out there and have an adventure with incredible fights and be the ultimate hero. Gohan was and is a peaceful young man who when he sees injustice, is not going to sit there and not do anything. Edited by NavonWise, Oct 29 2013, 09:02 PM.
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+ Yusuke	Oct 29 2013, 08:58 PM Post #22
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	We already have a similar thread like this. Theres no need to make another one IMO. Just Saiyan. @OP I'm happy at how things turned out. That is, of course just my opinion.
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bardock1990	Oct 29 2013, 10:10 PM Post #23
Posts: 1,078 Group: Member Member #8,530 Joined: November 6, 2012	NavonWise Oct 29 2013, 08:41 PM So what you're telling me is, wanting to help defeat the bad guys is equivalent to, loving to fight and be a big hero? Bro, it's like I said, a sudden change in Gohan's character would have to result in Toriyama explaining or showing us why this change occurred. I have no problem with it, I wanted Gohan to take the lead, but if the kid doesn't want it and he's not even suited for it, what can I do? Gohan during the Cell saga still needed guidance, he would've never won without Goku's help, that should've been a red light; he wasn't ready yet. Years later, the kid doesn't train, got rusty and weaker, how is this not a clear indication that Gohan is not interested in fighting? Helping those in need of help is not the same as someone who wants to go out there and have an adventure with incredible fights and be the ultimate hero. Gohan was and is a peaceful young man who when he sees injustice, is not going to sit there and not do anything. Gohan enjoyed himself plenty of times when he was beating Cell and Super Buu. He was just like his father who was showing off against the Ginyu force. Gohan can still love fighting and being a hero when the right time comes. He doesn't have to indulge in it 24/7 during peaceful times. And this is my main criticsm in the beginning of the thread. AT didn't have to make it so that Gohan never trained and got weaker. He could have easily had Gohan training and taking the responsibility of being the new hero after he killed Cell and was way, way above everybody else. And if he was gonna go on with this then he should not have even bothered with the build-up and making him the strongest and Goku's new philosophy of making the kids take over his job. Problem is, Gohan was made the strongest with the Kai training. Why all the build up and huge gap for him only to throw him away in what seemed like a half assed attempt to quickly make Goku the hero again? And I still don't see how it makes sense to make Gohan the hero in the Cell saga while being superior in the Buu saga in every way but not being made a hero. I just don't like the way AT handled this that's all.



bardock1990	Oct 30 2013, 12:03 AM Post #24
Posts: 1,078 Group: Member Member #8,530 Joined: November 6, 2012	Btw just to make this clear, I do love the Buu saga and the ending. What I really liked about Goku was that he was the only one who didn't get killed by Buu. I don't know why exactly, just think that made him cooler in the Buu saga.



NavonWise	Oct 30 2013, 12:47 AM Post #25
Realist Rapper Alive Posts: 1,889 Group: Member Member #6,948 Joined: November 5, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	bardock1990 Oct 29 2013, 10:10 PM Gohan enjoyed himself plenty of times when he was beating Cell and Super Buu. He was just like his father who was showing off against the Ginyu force. Gohan can still love fighting and being a hero when the right time comes. He doesn't have to indulge in it 24/7 during peaceful times. And this is my main criticsm in the beginning of the thread. AT didn't have to make it so that Gohan never trained and got weaker. He could have easily had Gohan training and taking the responsibility of being the new hero after he killed Cell and was way, way above everybody else. And if he was gonna go on with this then he should not have even bothered with the build-up and making him the strongest and Goku's new philosophy of making the kids take over his job. Problem is, Gohan was made the strongest with the Kai training. Why all the build up and huge gap for him only to throw him away in what seemed like a half assed attempt to quickly make Goku the hero again? And I still don't see how it makes sense to make Gohan the hero in the Cell saga while being superior in the Buu saga in every way but not being made a hero. I just don't like the way AT handled this that's all. ...come one bro...seriously lol AT could've done a lot of things, but again, he felt Gohan wasn't suited for the role; he was messing with Gohan's character. Because this is a perfect example of having all the powers in the universe, but not having that warrior mindset. Again, AT thought of leaving Gohan as the hero, but he didn't fit that hero role.
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~~Stallin'~~	Oct 30 2013, 12:48 AM Post #26
"Corona veniat electis." Posts: 1,237 Group: Suspended Member #9,535 Joined: May 24, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime arnold What Browser do you use? ardolan Favourite Manga dolan	If he was more like his Ultimate self then go for it. I'm sick of his study-ish self.



Pride	Oct 31 2013, 12:20 AM Post #27
Posts: 62 Group: Member Member #10,237 Joined: September 22, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Detective Conan, FMA, Yu Yu Hakesho, Inuyasha What Browser do you use? Safari Ipad Favourite Manga DBZ FMA	To be honest, I felt Gohan and Vegeta both were thrown to the sidelines for Goku to take all the shine. I loved the Goku vs Majin Vegeta Fight but I felt like Vegeta should have gotten a clean win. Gohan should have been the hero, I mean I know Future Gohan wanted to follow in his Fathers footsteps and the present Gohan loved training with Goku. So that seems consistent.. I thought with Goku dying, Gohan's character would be trying to live up to him while at the same time making his own path. I always thought Toriyama should at least give the ok for a What If Saga making Gohan the main hero for the Buu at least.



Master Gohan	Oct 31 2013, 12:30 PM Post #28
Posts: 2,178 Group: New York Yankee Member #9,780 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime KIll la Kill, No Game No Life, Code Geass, Gosick, Log Horizon, Steins;Gate	Yes, I would have liked DBZ much better. He was fit to be a hero when he defeated Cell, but AT made him soft after 7 years. <------- big mistake



* Crashbreaka	Oct 31 2013, 12:37 PM Post #29
Captain Oblivious Posts: 6,888 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,771 Joined: June 14, 2012 Gender Male Country New Zealand Favourite Anime Onepunch-Man, Gurren Lagann What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Seven Deadly Sins, Food Wars, Onepunch-Man	I actually agree with Goku being the hero, I don't think Gohan was very suitable. Or at least in my eyes. (Of course, someone who wasn't Gohan or Goku would have been even better IMO )



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